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NDM8390 Welsh Conservatives Debate - A&E department performance data
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Meeting: 25/10/2023 - Plenary (Item 6)
Welsh Conservatives Debate - A&E department performance data
NDM8390 Darren Millar (Clwyd West)
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Notes the importance of meaningful and
transparent data in improving care and patient safety.
2. Regrets the findings by the Royal
College of Emergency Medicine that headline emergency department performance
data have not been accurately reported for more than a decade.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) routinely publish pre-exemption figures
for Welsh emergency departments to better understand performance and to inform
decision making;
b) explain why the performance data in
responses provided by Welsh local health boards to the Royal College of
Emergency Medicine under the Freedom of Information Act and emergency
department performance data published by the Welsh Government appears to be
different; and
c) commission an
independent review of published data to ensure that they are comparable between
the UK nations.
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 Lesley
Griffiths (Wrexham)
Delete all after point 1 and replace with:
Notes the assurance from health boards that
emergency department data have been reported in line with Welsh Government
guidance.
Notes that the independent Office for
Statistics Regulation has welcomed the steps the Welsh Government has taken to
provide assurance on the quality of the statistics.
Notes that, based on compliance by health
boards with the guidance we have in Wales, Welsh statistics for major emergency
departments are considered comparable to the statistics for England’s Type 1
accident and emergency departments.
Further notes that work is ongoing in
partnership with service users and clinicians to review the way we measure the
quality of care in emergency departments.
If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and
3 will be de-selected.
Amendment 2 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central)
Add as new points after point 2 and
renumber accordingly:
Notes that 82 per cent of clinical leads
and consultants surveyed by the Royal College of Emergency Medicine have a
negative view of the breach exemptions policy.
Regrets that accident and emergency waiting
times have worsened since the policy was introduced over ten years ago.
Believes that the policy compromises the
ability of emergency services to plan and manage their resources effectively.
Amendment 3 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central)
In point 3, delete sub-point b) and replace with: rescind the breach exemptions policy in line with the wishes of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine.
Minutes:
The item started at 16.22
Voting on the motion and amendments under
this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A vote was taken on the motion without
amendment:
NDM8390 Darren
Millar (Clwyd West)
To propose that the Senedd:
1. Notes the importance of meaningful and
transparent data in improving care and patient safety.
2. Regrets the findings by the Royal College
of Emergency Medicine that headline emergency department performance data have
not been accurately reported for more than a decade.
3. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) routinely publish pre-exemption figures
for Welsh emergency departments to better understand performance and to inform
decision making;
b) explain why the performance data in
responses provided by Welsh local health boards to the Royal College of
Emergency Medicine under the Freedom of Information Act and emergency
department performance data published by the Welsh Government appears to be
different; and
c) commission an independent review of
published data to ensure that they are comparable between the UK nations.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
14 |
0 |
38 |
52 |
The motion without amendment was not agreed.
The following amendments were tabled:
Amendment 1 Lesley
Griffiths (Wrexham)
Delete all after point 1 and replace with:
Notes the assurance from health boards that
emergency department data have been reported in line with Welsh Government
guidance.
Notes that the independent Office for
Statistics Regulation has welcomed the steps the Welsh Government has taken to
provide assurance on the quality of the statistics.
Notes that, based on compliance by health
boards with the guidance we have in Wales, Welsh statistics for major emergency
departments are considered comparable to the statistics for England’s Type 1
accident and emergency departments.
Further notes that work is ongoing in
partnership with service users and clinicians to review the way we measure the
quality of care in emergency departments.
A vote was taken on amendment 1:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
26 |
0 |
27 |
53 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the
Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment.
Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
Amendment 2 Heledd
Fychan (South Wales Central)
Add as new points after point 2 and renumber
accordingly:
Notes that 82 per cent of clinical leads and
consultants surveyed by the Royal College of Emergency Medicine have a negative
view of the breach exemptions policy.
Regrets that accident and emergency waiting
times have worsened since the policy was introduced over ten years ago.
Believes that the policy compromises the
ability of emergency services to plan and manage their resources effectively.
A vote was taken on amendment 2:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
26 |
0 |
27 |
53 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the
Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment.
Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
Amendment 3 Heledd Fychan (South
Wales Central)
In point 3, delete sub-point
b) and replace with: rescind the breach exemptions policy in line with the
wishes of the Royal College of Emergency Medicine.
A vote was taken on amendment 3:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
26 |
0 |
27 |
53 |
As required by Standing Order 6.20 the
Presiding Officer exercised her casting vote by voting against the amendment.
Therefore, the amendment was not agreed.
As
the Senedd did not agree the motion without amendment, and did not agree the
amendments tabled to the motion, the motion was therefore not agreed.