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NDM5297 Rhodri Glyn Thomas (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with paragraph 8(11)(d) of Schedule 2 of the Government of Wales Act 2006:

Approves the Assembly Commission's Official Languages Scheme, laid before the National Assembly for Wales on 10 July 2013.

Supporting documents:

Assembly Commission's Official Languages Scheme

Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee’s Stage 1 Committee report

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NDM5297 Rhodri Glyn Thomas (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with paragraph 8(11)(d) of Schedule 2 of the Government of Wales Act 2006:

Approves the Assembly Commission's Official Languages Scheme, laid before the National Assembly for Wales on 10 July 2013.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate, arise in the Bill.

The Amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

1. Translation of Reports of Assembly Proceedings

1, 5

2. Publication of Reports of Assembly Proceedings

9

3. Appointment of Responsible Officer

6

4. Meaning of Provision

2

5. Provisions that must be included in the Scheme

10, 11, 12

6. Services provided under the Scheme

7, 8

7. Consultation on the Scheme

3, 4

Supporting documents:

National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill

Revised Explanatory Memorandum

Marshalled List of Amendments
Groupings of Amendments
Briefing note on the Bill in relation to legislative competence, Chief Legal Adviser, National Assembly for Wales

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In accordance with Standing Order 26.36, amendments will be disposed of in the order which the sections and schedules to which they relate, arise in the Bill.

The Amendments have been grouped for the purposes of debate and the groupings will be debated as follows:

1. Translation of Reports of Assembly Proceedings

1, 5

2. Publication of Reports of Assembly Proceedings

9

3. Appointment of Responsible Officer

6

4. Meaning of Provision

2

5. Provisions that must be included in the Scheme

10, 11, 12

6. Services provided under the Scheme

7, 8

7. Consultation on the Scheme

3, 4

Voting was taken in the order set out in the Marshalled List of Amendments:

A vote was taken on Amendment 1:

Amendment 1 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on Amendment 9:

Amendment 9 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on Amendment 5:

Amendment 5 was not agreed.

A vote was taken on Amendment 6:

Amendment 6 was not agreed.

Amendment 2 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 10 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 11 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

A vote was taken on Amendment 12:

Amendment 12 was agreed.

Amendment 7 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 8 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 3 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Amendment 4 was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

All sections and schedules of the Bill were deemed agreed, concluding Stage 3 proceedings.

At the conclusion of Stage 3 the Commissioner may propose that the Bill be passed in accordance with Standing Order 26.47. If the proposition is agreed:

Stage 4 Standing Order 26.47 motion to approve the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill.

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At the conclusion of Stage 3 the Commissioner may propose that the Bill be passed in accordance with Standing Order 26.47. If the proposition is agreed:

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

Papers: Marshalled List of Amendments, 21 June 2012

              Groupings of Amendments, 21 June 2012       

In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee will dispose of amendments to the Bill in the following order:

Sections 1 – 3

Supporting documents:

Marshalled List of Amendments, 21 June 2012

Groupings of Amendments, 21 June 2012

2.1 The Chair said that the Committee would consider the amendments in the following order:

Section 1 – 3.

2.2 The Committee disposed of the following amendments:

Section 1:

Amendment 1A (Suzy Davies) was not moved.

Amendments 1, 2 and 3 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) were agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).

Section 2:

Amendment 11 (Bethan Jenkins) was withdrawn, in accordance with Standing Order 26.66 (i).

Amendment 13 (Suzy Davies):

Amendment 16 (Aled Roberts):

Amendment 17 (Aled Roberts):

Amendment 18 (Aled Roberts) was not moved.

Amendment 19 (Aled Roberts):

Amendments 20 and 21 (Aled Roberts) were not moved.

Amendment 4A (Bethan Jenkins) was not moved.

Amendment 4 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) was agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).

Amendment 12 (Bethan Jenkins) was not moved.

Amendment 5 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) was agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).

Amendment 14 (Suzy Davies), was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66 (i).

Amendments 6 and 7 (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) were agreed to, in accordance with Standing Order 17.34 (i).

Amendment 15 (Suzy Davies) was withdrawn, in accordance with Standing Order 26.66 (i).

Section 3: No amendments were tabled to this section, therefore it was deemed agreed to.

2.3 The Bill, as amended was deemed agreed.

2.4 The Committee requested that the Commissioner, prepare a revised Explanatory Memorandum, in accordance with Standing Order 26.27.

2.5 The Chair informed the Committee that Stage 3 proceedings would begin on Friday 22 June 2012.

NDM4890 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions resulting from the National Assembly for Wales (Officials Languages) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69(ii), arising in consequence of the Bill.

The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 30 January 2012.

Supporting Document
The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill

Explanatory Memorandum

Report of the Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee

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NDM4890 Jane Hutt (Vale of Glamorgan)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, for the purposes of any provisions resulting from the National Assembly for Wales (Officials Languages) Bill, agrees to any increase in expenditure of a kind referred to in Standing Order 26.69(ii), arising in consequence of the Bill.

The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 30 January 2012.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

NDM4984 Rhodri Glyn Thomas (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.11:

Agrees to the general principles of the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill.

The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the Assembly on 30 January 2012.

The report of the Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee on the National Assembly for Wales (Official languages) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 4 May 2012.

Supporting Documents:

The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill

Explanatory Memorandum

Report of the Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee

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NDM4984 Rhodri Glyn Thomas (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)

To propose that the National Assembly for Wales, in accordance with Standing Order 26.11:

Agrees to the general principles of the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill.

The National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill and Explanatory Memorandum were laid before the Assembly on 30 January 2012.

The report of the Communities, Equality and Local Government Committee on the National Assembly for Wales (Official languages) Bill was laid before the Assembly on 4 May 2012.

The motion was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.

The Committee considered the draft report on the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill.

5.1 The Chair welcomed Alun Ffred Jones, who was substituting for Rhodri Glyn Thomas, and Eluned Parrott, who was substituting for Peter Black, in accordance with Standing Order 17.48.

5.2 The Committee considered the Key Issues on the Bill.

5.2 Members were informed that the points and recommendations they suggested would be included in the draft report, which would be considered at the Committee’s next meeting on Wednesday 25 April.

Rhodri Glyn Thomas, Commissioner with responsibility for the Welsh Language

2.1 The Committee received evidence from Rhodri Glyn Thomas AM, Commissioner with responsibility for the Welsh Language.

2.2 The Commissioner agreed to provide additional information to the Committee.

Paper 2:

David Thomas, Policy Officer (Equalities and the Welsh Language) Caerphilly County Borough Council

Cath Baldwin, Welsh Language Officer, South Wales Fire and Rescue Service

Ffion Gruffudd, Welsh Language Officer, Cardiff City and County Council

3.1 The Committee received evidence from the Welsh Language Officers Group on the Bill

Paper 1:

Dr Diarmait Mac Giolla Chriost, Language, Policy and Planning Research Unit

Dr Simon Brooks, Language, Policy and Planning Research Unit,

2.1 The Committee received evidence from the School of Welsh, Cardiff University, on the Bill.

2.2 The School of Welsh agreed to provide additional information to the Committee.

Paper 2

Geraint Wyn Parry, Chief Executive

Berwyn Prys Jones, Chairman

3.1 The Committee received evidence from the Association of Welsh Translators on the Bill.

Paper 1

          Colin Nosworthy

Ceri Phillips

Osian Rhys

2.1 The Committee received evidence from the Welsh Language Society on the Bill.

2.2 The Welsh Language Society agreed to provide additional information to the Committee.

Paper 1

          Meirion Prys Jones, Chief Executive 

Gwenith Price, Director of Strategic Operations

2.1 The Committee took evidence from the Welsh Language Board in connection with the Bill.

The Committee will be invited to resolve to exclude the public from item 6 of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi):

A Committee may resolve to exclude the public from a meeting or any part of a meeting where:

(vi) the Committee is deliberating on the content, conclusions or recommendations of a report it proposes to publish; or is preparing itself to take evidence from any person.

6.1 The Committee resolved to meet in private, to consider the evidence received, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42(vi).

Rhodri Glyn Thomas, Commissioner with responsibility for the Welsh Language

5.1 The Chair said that apologies for absence had been received by Rhodri Glyn Thomas and Peter Black, for that item, given their roles on the Assembly Commission.  The Chair welcomed Elin Jones, who was substituting for Rhodri Glyn Thomas, in accordance with Standing Order 17.48.

5.2 The Chair welcomed Rhodri Glyn Thomas, who was there to give evidence to the Committee in his capacity as the Assembly Commissioner with responsibility for the Welsh Language and the Member in charge of the Bill.

5.3 The Committee received evidence on the Bill.

2.1 The Committee formally agreed the approach to the scrutiny of the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Bill.