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Meeting: 09/11/2016 - Plenary - Fifth Senedd (Item 6)
Welsh Conservatives debate
NDM6132
Paul Davies (Preseli Pembrokeshire)
To propose that
the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that,
according to the Royal British Legion's 2014 Household Survey, there are
385,000 members of the current, and former, service community in Wales.
2. Recognises
that those who serve or who have served in the armed forces and their families,
should be treated with fairness and respect.
3. Believes
that Wales should be at the forefront of implementing the Armed Forces
Covenant, which is intended to "redress the disadvantages that the armed
forces community may face in comparison to other citizens, and to recognise
sacrifices made".
4. Calls on the
Welsh Government to:
a) note the
Scottish Government's creation of a veterans commissioner, to champion the
needs of the armed forces community, and further calls on the Welsh Government
to create an armed forces commissioner for Wales which would be dedicated both
to veterans and the wider armed forces community, with the overall objective of
improving outcomes for both veterans and serving forces; and
b) introduce a
veterans needs assessment as the basis for delivering services to ensure that
former members of the armed forces are entitled to receive the support they
deserve.
'Royal British
Legion's 2014 household survey'
The
following amendments have been tabled:
Amendment
1. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Delete point 4.
Amendment
2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Add as new
point at end of motion:
Calls on the
Welsh Government to examine ways in which the needs of veterans, and the
communities they live in, can be championed and promoted, looking at best
practice elsewhere.
Amendment
3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Add as new
point at end of motion:
Notes the work
of organisations such as '65 degrees north' that help the rehabilitation of
veterans, and calls on the Welsh Government to work with the Ministry of
Defence to ensure people about to leave the Armed forces are aware of such
organisations.
Amendment
4. Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan)
Add as new
point at the end of the motion:
Welcomes the
steps taken by Welsh Government in partnership with the armed forces community,
including:
a) the
invaluable work of the Armed Forces Expert Group;
b) the
development of the Welcome to Wales booklet for serving armed forces personnel
and their families on being deployed to Wales;
c) the improved
support for armed forces and their families, including the development of a
Housing Pathway for ex-service personnel and their families;
d) the Armed
Forces Employability Pathway which enables young people to build skills and
confidence, gain qualifications and secure employment;
e) the
continued work to progress health and welfare provision for ex-service
personnel including the annual funding of £585,000 given to Veterans NHS Wales,
free swimming and the total disregard of the war disablement pension from April
2017.
Minutes:
The
item started at 17.23
Voting
on the motion and amendments under this item was deferred until Voting Time.
A
vote was taken on the motion without amendment:
NDM6132 Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that, according to the Royal British
Legion's 2014 Household Survey, there are 385,000 members of the current, and
former, service community in Wales.
2. Recognises that those who serve or who have
served in the armed forces and their families, should be treated with fairness
and respect.
3. Believes that Wales should be at the forefront of
implementing the Armed Forces Covenant, which is intended to "redress the
disadvantages that the armed forces community may face in comparison to other
citizens, and to recognise sacrifices made".
4. Calls on the Welsh Government to:
a) note the Scottish Government's creation of a
veterans commissioner, to champion the needs of the armed forces community, and
further calls on the Welsh Government to create an armed forces commissioner
for Wales which would be dedicated both to veterans and the wider armed forces
community, with the overall objective of improving outcomes for both veterans
and serving forces; and
b) introduce a veterans needs assessment as the
basis for delivering services to ensure that former members of the armed forces
are entitled to receive the support they deserve.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
12 |
0 |
34 |
46 |
The motion without amendment was not agreed.
The
following amendments were tabled:
Amendment
1. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Delete
point 4.
A
vote was taken on Amendment 1:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
35 |
0 |
11 |
46 |
Amendment 1 was agreed.
Amendment
2. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Add
as new point at end of motion:
Calls
on the Welsh Government to examine ways in which the needs of veterans, and the
communities they live in, can be championed and promoted, looking at best
practice elsewhere.
A
vote was taken on Amendment 2:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
46 |
0 |
0 |
46 |
Amendment 2 was agreed.
Amendment 3. Rhun ap Iorwerth (Ynys
Môn):
Add as new point at end of
motion:
Notes the work of
organisations such as '65 degrees north' that help the rehabilitation of
veterans, and calls on the Welsh Government to work with the Ministry of
Defence to ensure people about to leave the Armed forces are aware of such
organisations.
A
vote was taken on Amendment 3:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
46 |
0 |
0 |
46 |
Amendment 3 was agreed.
Amendment 4. Jane Hutt (Vale of
Glamorgan)
Add as new point at the end
of the motion:
Welcomes the steps taken by
Welsh Government in partnership with the armed forces community, including:
a) the invaluable work of
the Armed Forces Expert Group;
b) the development of the
Welcome to Wales booklet for serving armed forces personnel and their families
on being deployed to Wales;
c) the improved support for
armed forces and their families, including the development of a Housing Pathway
for ex-service personnel and their families;
d) the Armed Forces
Employability Pathway which enables young people to build skills and
confidence, gain qualifications and secure employment;
e) the continued work to
progress health and welfare provision for ex-service personnel including the
annual funding of £585,000 given to Veterans NHS Wales, free swimming and the
total disregard of the war disablement pension from April 2017.
A
vote was taken on Amendment 4:
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
38 |
8 |
0 |
46 |
Amendment 4 was agreed.
A
vote was taken on the motion as amended:
NDM6132 Paul Davies (Preseli
Pembrokeshire)
To propose that the National Assembly for Wales:
1. Notes that, according to the Royal British
Legion's 2014 Household Survey, there are 385,000 members of the current, and
former, service community in Wales.
2. Recognises that those who serve or who have
served in the armed forces and their families, should be treated with fairness
and respect.
3. Believes that Wales should be at the forefront of
implementing the Armed Forces Covenant, which is intended to "redress the
disadvantages that the armed forces community may face in comparison to other
citizens, and to recognise sacrifices made".
4.
Calls on the Welsh Government to examine ways in which the needs of veterans,
and the communities they live in, can be championed and promoted, looking at
best practice elsewhere.
5. Notes the work of
organisations such as '65 degrees north' that help the rehabilitation of
veterans, and calls on the Welsh Government to work with the Ministry of
Defence to ensure people about to leave the Armed forces are aware of such
organisations.
6. Welcomes the steps taken
by Welsh Government in partnership with the armed forces community, including:
a) the invaluable work of
the Armed Forces Expert Group;
b) the development of the
Welcome to Wales booklet for serving armed forces personnel and their families
on being deployed to Wales;
c) the improved support for
armed forces and their families, including the development of a Housing Pathway
for ex-service personnel and their families;
d) the Armed Forces
Employability Pathway which enables young people to build skills and
confidence, gain qualifications and secure employment;
e) the continued work to
progress health and welfare provision for ex-service personnel including the
annual funding of £585,000 given to Veterans NHS Wales, free swimming and the
total disregard of the war disablement pension from April 2017.
|
For |
Abstain |
Against |
Total |
|
46 |
0 |
0 |
46 |
The motion as amended was agreed.